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[>DE< Lord Voldemort]

Why don't NFBL ban the backill, chatkill, and armorrun?
It maybe funnier if there wasn't noobs who backill, chatkill and run for armor in knox2 ...

It's just wha i think about ....

[>DE< Lord Voldemort]

and ban the aimbotters too ... :D

[[OO9]]

Why don't NFBL ban the backill, chatkill, and armorrun?
It maybe funnier if there wasn't noobs who backill, chatkill and run for armor in knox2 ...

It's just wha i think about ....

Any form of *kill is not recognised by the NFBL so does not count. At the moment the rules just say "...Chat killing, No armour Killing and Lag Killing...", as there are more coming out now it may be worth changing this now.

It's Frag or be Fragged

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Its hard to control people on aimbot.

When you gonna bann chatkilling,armorrunning and backkilling from a league, then you only get fights. And its IMPOSSIBLE to control it. When you chat, take the risc you can get killed. WHen you get hurt, take the chance to get armor, and i made like a year ago a bind: CHECK UR BACK.

Backkilling isnt an excuse for getting killed, just check ur back and they wont suprise you. Its all part of the game

+ in NFBL no knox2, but ur right in knox2 when you just playing for fun then i dont like it when people run for armor but i dont like playing clanwars/scrims where armorrunning isn't allowed. You only get fights about it.

[ZERO]

You say back-killing is used by noobs, when I heared of it for the first time (about 2 months ago and I ply this game much longer) I thought it was said by noobs !! Auch, now we have a point of discussion......
I agree with suppa, back-kill does not exist, it's invented by people who are to lazy to check their back and think they can walk in straight lines with a flag from enemy base to home base, please get real.

Chat-kill is a form of courtesy but also if you get killed when chatting don't complain to much, game is invented to play and not to chat.

Going for armor.... if you are in a 1 to 1 fight maybe not, but again .... the armor is in the game (if you don't like it take it out as a host) and getting it is also taking a risk.

Don't complain so much about the ways you can get killed, just play and enjoy the game. If you don't want to be killed turn off your Nightfire.

[>DE< Lord Voldemort]

that's the reason why when I launch my server, i set away all the vest out of the game ^^

I know it's grag or get fragged ... but i don't like when i have a good score, getting killed when i'm chatting ... it gimme a bad score

I agree with you about the backill ... I only have to watch my back ... and backill a flag runner is less sad than backilling a man wwho don't have the flag, isn't it?

I know it's impossible to control them at 100 percent, but maybe several hasot can ban the players who backilled 3 times or 4 times ... same for the chatkill ... so the game is funier for everybody ...

[ZERO]

Still think back kill is allowed. Or said otherwise, backkill does not exist !!! Don't know who invented this but certainly not one of the players who play this game allready for years.
Backkill is the same as a good sniper kill, you don't see the enemy...well... thats your problem or lack of skill, just use your eyes and skills :P

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You want everybody to warn sum1: HEY ENEMY I WALKING BEHIND YOU,PLEASE TURN UR FACE TO ME THEN I CAN KILL YOU
Backkilling is part of the game, its just an excuse for a fault of urself.

[Mackan]

I have played this game for long now, problarly longer then most active players (if not almost all?), but I have never heard ANY decently good player complain about being killed in the back... When one isn't allowed to kill someone who is not observant enough to stay alive, why should there even be guns to fire with?!?

No matter what, the NFBL rules in this topic are prefect already. They allow a nice flowing game without chances of complaints. If you have to chat, so what? Then can one just pretend to be chatting if he doesn't want to get killed. Is it better that people sit behind chatting people killing them as soon as they start moving? That is to me even worse then doing a chatkill.

[Guest]

Back killing lol, what do they come up with next?
? No Reload-killing?
? No 'I accidentally hit my Windows key'-killing?
? No 'I'm not paying attention well enough to all aspects of the game'-killing?
? No shooting before I shoot you? (I actually do that sometimes when I notice the other player is struggling lol)
? Don't shoot me unless I can emotionally deal with it?

Checking your back constantly makes players less vulnerable to surprises. Thus getting surprised means you didn't check your back or did not anticipate well enough. Stealth killing implies sneaking up on your enemy when he/she doesn't expect it. Give it a try, it's not as simple as it looks. It involves a good sense of timing and knowing the maps or even players well.

I'm glad to see Suppa, 009, Zero and Mackan get the idea.

If you're playing with good friends it's not done to chatkill, but even then it's hard to avoid totally, as I know from experience.

Making no chatkilling a rule does have a disadvantage as stated: people use it as an excuse to withdraw from a fight. I've seen players do this: the fight starts, the other player runs into a wall and chats something unimportant, then I let the player go and walk away, next the player returns from the chat 'that couldn't wait' and shoots me in the back...

If you chatkill by accident say sorry when you mean it, if you are chatkilled, don't complain, unless you have never chatkilled yourself (referring to players that only play singleplayer).

And regarding armor running, *sigh, again, what's next?
? No ammo running?
? No running for cover?
? No running, period?

Armor is part of the default game, thus obtaining it is part of the game.
I think it takes skill to get armor without getting shot and indeed is a risk.
Standing around near a vest and never leaving that spot on the other hand is plain silly. It means you're not even trying to play a decent game.

Consider the following: a fight is won by a player, but he/she was hit and has no armor left. Then a second fight starts with a fresh (100% hp) opponent. What is wise, take your chance to win 2 fights in a row and risk getting shot easily, even perhaps ending up battling more players without any health? Or do you run for armor? And how do you see the armor level of the opponent? I've been in that spot, killed some players, no health left, and then next fight starts which makes me think 'well that's enough for now', so I run for armor. Next I was accused of armor running, I explained why, and got chatkilled (& didn't complain).. To accuse someone of armor running is accusing someone of playing the game as intended and is not legit to me. Making it a rule, I leave that to clans who disagree on that part. Don't try to make your own silly set of rules a standard for the whole game. The game and all it's aspects was here first.

Lord Voldemort complained that new players do the above. I'm just glad that there are new players... They may even spawnkill me if they want (/can), they'll only get away with it once and then they'll know why not to do that as I will explain it to them. For the rest, back/chat-kill and armor run, there's not a single good reason to bann it to my opinion, besides the fact that you cannot safely verify whether it really happened.

If there are new players, it should be easy for them to start playing. So help them out, and don't shout they are breaking your own silly invented rules, which don't even make sense to an experienced player.

You were right on one part, banning aimbotters. I fully agree there, but how to tell if someone is hacking, requires hacking and that's where playing a fun game ends for me.

JNM

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nice story jnm

but i agree, see it like this, When you dont take the armor then ur enemy will, so get it first

When i play in scrim, in knox2 for example. Then you can just take more riscs when you attack, because of when you get hurt ==> get armor. Thats in all maps the same. Armor is there to get it, when you dont get it, your enemy will. SO GET IT FIRST!!

btw Armorrunning is not for noobs, you are stupid when you dont do it:)

[Tarmac]

you can see backkilling, realoadkilling etc. as a tactical sollution to kill anybody.
like I think that if you chat in a game it's your own risk if you get killed. face wall or other excuses for chatting isnt a real rule, and you cant make it 1 eather.
armor running isnt fun for the 1 who is getting killed, but it's usefull for the person who is getting killed.

complaing about it, or removing the items is rediculess.

i say, no changes. it will make the game easier 2 play if you remove armor. or remove the chat abillity will be hard for waring your teammates at a match.

[UltimateSniper]

In sniper only maps its rather annoyin when u hit ur enemy and they just go&get armour, hit them again and they pick more up and i just get bored of shootin @ them and usually in knox2 when u face the wall ppl kno ur doin somin, sometimes people use it to shoot enemy attackers in the back after they run past.

But other than that, i don't think its a major enough problem.

P-Jumping i think is the biggest problem to deal with atm

[Tarmac]

pjump is the worst mistake of the game, it makes nf un realistic, but i find it kinda funny at the same time

and it is a skill on nf hen you can pjump good

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well I think pjump is 1 of the reasons why so many ppl still play NF cuz it makes this game special.. Also I dun like it cuz it's not realistic that sum ppl start pjumping out of nothing lol...