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Ronins in the NFBL

yes, in dm+ctf maps
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Postby spranger on Mon Jan 14, 2008 4:52 pm

There is a limit right? 1 per team.. If both teams have the flag and hiding in spawnroom sure its usefull to use the ronin to cover, or to trow into the room to blew up or give a high percentage of damage. I dont see the discussion about spawnkilling..

The most players here (new1) dont even know the ronin time so you cant say the players dindt want them.

If tres can make an option into dss that you can add ronins on the server ore something, it will be useful to test and looks how it goes!
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Postby storM'Cosmic on Mon Jan 14, 2008 4:58 pm

With the ronin it will be a lot harder to pjump or use it as grenade, but i think then the server will lagg more
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Postby Smith on Mon Jan 14, 2008 5:09 pm

that options is availble already spranger, check out "dss patching" you can make your own "anti cheatpatch". You can delete all the guns in the level or add them, making a pistol only server etc etc...
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Postby spranger on Mon Jan 14, 2008 5:13 pm

storM'Cosmic wrote:With the ronin it will be a lot harder to pjump or use it as grenade, but i think then the server will lagg more


The game is maked with ronins in it, so it not will lagg more ore less
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Postby Sliphead on Mon Jan 14, 2008 5:27 pm

Hmm it's actually kinda lame..
Throw a ronin, you blow them up or they do the dirty work for you..
I thought nfbl was all about tactical SHOOTING, and not about things which shoot automaticly in your place, why not allow 1 bot in each team?
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Postby spranger on Mon Jan 14, 2008 5:35 pm

Sliphead wrote:Hmm it's actually kinda lame..
Throw a ronin, you blow them up or they do the dirty work for you..
I thought nfbl was all about tactical SHOOTING, and not about things which shoot automaticly in your place, why not allow 1 bot in each team?


i think a bot do exactly the same automaticly shoot .. place a ronin tacticly is the way of new playing
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Postby -+-{MI-6}-+-OO7 on Mon Jan 14, 2008 5:49 pm

deathbot wrote:Ronins are good for the game. We have them in the bot DM server and they are a big hit. They aren't cheap or anything, you can punch a ronin to death and not get hit. I forget why i took them out of the CTF server. Maybe it's time to put them back in there too. A ronin is signature weapon that helps push this bond game into the bond realm. The thing is straight outta Q's basement testing lab.


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Postby UltimateSniper on Mon Jan 14, 2008 8:12 pm

Well then if it if ronins do the 'dirty work' for you then what are mines for? :shock: ur gona have everything deleted until we're down to just using our bare knuckles all for the sake of keeping p-jumping easy...

its tactics... place it somewhere very useful and detonate/deploy when u need, if ur on the opposing side, a few sniper shots is always enough to take it out... :razz:
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Postby |-CSS-|~*$upp@kill@* on Tue Jan 15, 2008 1:10 pm

Sliphead wrote:Hmm it's actually kinda lame..
Throw a ronin, you blow them up or they do the dirty work for you..
I thought nfbl was all about tactical SHOOTING, and not about things which shoot automaticly in your place, why not allow 1 bot in each team?


I guess all nf players are low iq?
I really don't get why ppl want BOTS in NFBL matches? Oh yea we won in a dm match because we killed the bot all the time... The idea's with bots in NFBL are really the worst I ever heard.

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Wrong topic suppa :p this is about ronins..
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Postby UltimateSniper on Tue Jan 15, 2008 3:59 pm

well suppa i realised bots aint as hard as i thought :razz:

i think ronins should be added again, improves tactical thinking in the game and makes it easier to defend the bases. <--- full stop, appreciate it! <--- exclamation mark, bow down before it!
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Postby -+-{MI-6}-+-OO7 on Tue Jan 15, 2008 5:47 pm

Ronins are good
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Postby diabloheaven on Tue Jan 15, 2008 11:05 pm

ronins are gay and thats final ....no nfbl should ever have a ronin there made for people who cant aim and need help ...nfbl was to see who is the best clan not who is the best noob.
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Postby Spida on Wed Jan 16, 2008 1:37 pm

i dont think ronins should be unpatched.

Just imagine a dm_island match and 1 team camping with 4 players in the pdw bunker (there is 1 ronin too)

Once 4 ronins are placed the team has won since nobody can jump in and kill that fast ( mayb a lucky pen ) before hes killed be the ronin.

If both teams have flag - the ronin can also be used to place in own spawn so that it kills enemy attackers. Thats also unfair and would end up in endless flag-flag sitations.

a ronin is also a kind of enemy detector. If you place it on some corner and you camp around it you can see enemies coming when the ronin shots. I dont know whether this is positive or negative tho^^
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Postby Smith on Wed Jan 16, 2008 1:41 pm

you got grenades in dm_island, and 2 friendly ronins next to eachother will shoot on eachother and not the enemy, so imagine 4 shooting ronins who actualy kiill themselves..

You can easily sniperkill a ronin when its outside a spawn, and you can still use grenades..
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Postby [George] on Wed Jan 16, 2008 5:54 pm

as for ronins in dm island bunker, you can fit i think 4 (if placed carefully) without them shooting each other - on on top of pdw barrel, one on each side of pdw barrel (against the side wall) and on either behind the big pipe thingys in that little dark corner, or behind the armor vest barrel.


i think of most people, diablo has actually expressed the most agreeable opinion.. ronins are basically standing aimbots, they make a really annoying sound (someone plz make a sound mod for ronins if they come nfbl.. ;z), and theyre just a pretty cheap way of playing, and despite what others are saying im pretty sure its impossible to place a ronin and not have people use it to boost them to p jump.

and as for killing ronins with grenades, yes its possible, but it takes ages - and with ctfs you dont want to be throwing grenades around wasting time lol. and with dms, who wants to spend half the match throwing grenades at ronins? people want to shoot other people, not mess around with noob stuff.

imagine trying to attacking maps like ctf_tower (where attacking is hard enough already) that have ronins nearby spawn and/or flags.
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