[spranger]

There is a limit right? 1 per team.. If both teams have the flag and hiding in spawnroom sure its usefull to use the ronin to cover, or to trow into the room to blew up or give a high percentage of damage. I dont see the discussion about spawnkilling..

The most players here (new1) dont even know the ronin time so you cant say the players dindt want them.

If tres can make an option into dss that you can add ronins on the server ore something, it will be useful to test and looks how it goes!

[storM'Cosmic]

With the ronin it will be a lot harder to pjump or use it as grenade, but i think then the server will lagg more
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[Smith]

that options is availble already spranger, check out "dss patching" you can make your own "anti cheatpatch". You can delete all the guns in the level or add them, making a pistol only server etc etc...
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[Sliphead]

Hmm it's actually kinda lame..
Throw a ronin, you blow them up or they do the dirty work for you..
I thought nfbl was all about tactical SHOOTING, and not about things which shoot automaticly in your place, why not allow 1 bot in each team?

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[UltimateSniper]

Well then if it if ronins do the 'dirty work' for you then what are mines for? ur gona have everything deleted until we're down to just using our bare knuckles all for the sake of keeping p-jumping easy...

its tactics... place it somewhere very useful and detonate/deploy when u need, if ur on the opposing side, a few sniper shots is always enough to take it out...
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[UltimateSniper]

well suppa i realised bots aint as hard as i thought

i think ronins should be added again, improves tactical thinking in the game and makes it easier to defend the bases. <--- full stop, appreciate it! <--- exclamation mark, bow down before it!
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[diabloheaven]

ronins are gay and thats final ....no nfbl should ever have a ronin there made for people who cant aim and need help ...nfbl was to see who is the best clan not who is the best noob.
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[Spida]

i dont think ronins should be unpatched.

Just imagine a dm_island match and 1 team camping with 4 players in the pdw bunker (there is 1 ronin too)

Once 4 ronins are placed the team has won since nobody can jump in and kill that fast ( mayb a lucky pen ) before hes killed be the ronin.

If both teams have flag - the ronin can also be used to place in own spawn so that it kills enemy attackers. Thats also unfair and would end up in endless flag-flag sitations.

a ronin is also a kind of enemy detector. If you place it on some corner and you camp around it you can see enemies coming when the ronin shots. I dont know whether this is positive or negative tho^^
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[Smith]

you got grenades in dm_island, and 2 friendly ronins next to eachother will shoot on eachother and not the enemy, so imagine 4 shooting ronins who actualy kiill themselves..

You can easily sniperkill a ronin when its outside a spawn, and you can still use grenades..
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[[George]]

as for ronins in dm island bunker, you can fit i think 4 (if placed carefully) without them shooting each other - on on top of pdw barrel, one on each side of pdw barrel (against the side wall) and on either behind the big pipe thingys in that little dark corner, or behind the armor vest barrel.


i think of most people, diablo has actually expressed the most agreeable opinion.. ronins are basically standing aimbots, they make a really annoying sound (someone plz make a sound mod for ronins if they come nfbl.. ;z), and theyre just a pretty cheap way of playing, and despite what others are saying im pretty sure its impossible to place a ronin and not have people use it to boost them to p jump.

and as for killing ronins with grenades, yes its possible, but it takes ages - and with ctfs you dont want to be throwing grenades around wasting time lol. and with dms, who wants to spend half the match throwing grenades at ronins? people want to shoot other people, not mess around with noob stuff.

imagine trying to attacking maps like ctf_tower (where attacking is hard enough already) that have ronins nearby spawn and/or flags.
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