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Postby |-CSS-|~*$upp@kill@* on Thu Sep 13, 2007 5:09 pm

Hey,

Each World conquest we try to find out things to make it more fun to play NFBL..

Last WC we had the Suprise Countries, this WC we have the 'non-map countries' It means that the attacking clan can attack the country in any map!

Do you think these idea's make WC more fun to play?
Do you have some suggestions by yourself to make the next WC even more fun :)
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Postby Josti on Sat Sep 15, 2007 10:43 am

Its a cool idea. Maybe its a idea to do something with defence points to. Like when you collect 10 u can attack 1 extra map. And not at the end i mean.
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Postby Jethro on Sat Sep 15, 2007 12:48 pm

Yes, I think it's a good idea. Also Josti's idea is good. Each 10 def. pts. you earned you can trade in to attack 1 more time.

I want to suggest 1 thing though. When you own a territory, and a clan is attacking that country. And lets say that you put 5 def. pts. on it, but the attacking clan doesn't even play serious and just fools around and loses 0 - 10, but since you put 5 def. pts. on it, the score will be 0 - 15. Is there a way that you keep the def. pts. and that the score will be 0 - 10, so you can keep your def. pts.? Or else you might waste 5 def. pts. each week :P Yes, it'll be stupid for the attacking clan also to waste their matches like that, but still... And if the situation was diff. - You lose 10 - 9, bbut you put 5 def. pts., you win 10 - 11, and you can keep the other 3 def. pts.. Can you change that?
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Postby Mackan on Sat Sep 15, 2007 7:07 pm

Hi,

Atm you can't keep defencepoints you didn't need to use to win the match. I don't know what the general opinon in NF is about this, but if a lot of players would like this changed we could look at it. It's hard to create a good rule for DP, because we want clans to use them on the countries, or they will be pointless. That's why we don't have 10DP = 1 attack in WC, but if there are good suggestions about how to create a new DP rule, that would help a lot for us.
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Postby |-CSS-|~*$upp@kill@* on Sun Sep 16, 2007 11:28 am

Jethro wrote:Yes, I think it's a good idea. Also Josti's idea is good. Each 10 def. pts. you earned you can trade in to attack 1 more time.

I want to suggest 1 thing though. When you own a territory, and a clan is attacking that country. And lets say that you put 5 def. pts. on it, but the attacking clan doesn't even play serious and just fools around and loses 0 - 10, but since you put 5 def. pts. on it, the score will be 0 - 15. Is there a way that you keep the def. pts. and that the score will be 0 - 10, so you can keep your def. pts.? Or else you might waste 5 def. pts. each week :P Yes, it'll be stupid for the attacking clan also to waste their matches like that, but still... And if the situation was diff. - You lose 10 - 9, bbut you put 5 def. pts., you win 10 - 11, and you can keep the other 3 def. pts.. Can you change that?



You got a point there but I think it's better to do it like this.
CSS owns country A and S5 is attacking it. CSS put 4 defence points on Country A.

Result 1: CSS 9 - 7 S5 [4 defence points don't need to be used so they don't disappear]
result 2: CSS 7 - 8 S5 [S5 won match but cuz of CSS defence points CSS wins , instead of Jethro saying only 2 defence points u need to win then, I would say you win then just with 11-8 cuz you need defence points to win the match. It's the clan his own fault when they put too many defence points on country..
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Postby |-CSS-|~*$upp@kill@* on Sun Sep 16, 2007 11:35 am

[quote="Josti":P]Its a cool idea. Maybe its a idea to do something with defence points to. Like when you collect 10 u can attack 1 extra map. And not at the end i mean.


Uhm do you mean like at the moment you have 10 defence points, U gotta decide I use them as defence points or for 1 extra attack at that point..

Last GC was the rule 10 dp = 1 extra attack, you can decide by yourself when you want to use it as extra attack.. So then everybody use it in the last round :)
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Postby Josti on Mon Sep 17, 2007 10:10 am

Well last gc clans only could use them at the end of the gc. Because now at the end of the nfbl defencepoints that are left will be counted as numbers. So clans still wont use them. If you want clans to make use of them, then add something extra. Like a extra attack or when a certain country is knox and you want office, you give away 10 points to change the country to office. Because at this moment either clans dont have defence points, or dont use them because they will be added with the end score of the nfbl.


It are only suggestions tho, but i feel that defence points have no value atm. If you want people to use them, then make sure its worthwile using them.
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Postby |-CSS-|~*$upp@kill@* on Thu Sep 20, 2007 10:11 am

uhm last GC it wasn't the rule only last weekend but each clan just waited till last weekend before they used the 10 dp for an extra attack.

Maybe we can do something with the suggestion 10 dp to change a map..
I like the idea but this option will also be used then most of the time last weekend.. Another question is Can you change each Country / map you want with the 10 dp or just the map of the country you attack or Only maps of countries you own?
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Postby Josti on Thu Sep 20, 2007 11:07 am

The country you attack i would say. And then dont let defence points count at the end. So it doesnt matter who has the most defence points left. That will make sure people will use them.
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Postby |-CSS-|~*$upp@kill@* on Thu Sep 20, 2007 2:19 pm

only adventage you have with defence points left at the end is with a tie the clan with most unused defence points will win. They don't give you any extra points atm.
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Postby Josti on Mon Sep 24, 2007 3:14 pm

Perhaps it would also be a good idea to make ladder more interesting. I hear all of you complaining about to much pjumping in this game and not enough shooting. And then i see the same people talking about how ladder doesnt matter.
Correct me if i'm wrong but ladder is played in deathmatch maps and thing is to get as many kills as possible.
So why not delete the ladder and make it a 2nd conquest with only deathmatch maps.

Cuz right now ladder is just stupid as it never ends. And people saying it doesnt even matter.
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Postby UltimateSniper on Mon Sep 24, 2007 3:34 pm

heh sounds like a good idea... gives more choice to the players :wink:
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Postby Smith on Mon Sep 24, 2007 3:47 pm

You mean like deathmatch only maps? WC without the CTF.. but this will result in more time for the staff ( the reason why we cant do a second league) BUT this would be a league DS is interested in.. since they stopped playing ctf maps.. and we could combine it with less good clans...
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Postby UltimateSniper on Mon Sep 24, 2007 4:28 pm

u have a point smithy :shock:

The reason why small clans dont join the NFBL is because they believe that they aren't good enough to fight with the top clans...

each time a conquest is held, if the clan that wins wins by a certain amount then they are pushed up to the higher tier :grin:
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Postby |-CSS-|~*$upp@kill@* on Mon Sep 24, 2007 8:36 pm

uhm I agree with Josti about the clanladder. CSS doesn't take the clanladder really serious... When u lose once u can get up easy again..

I think it was 2 years ago that I had an idea to replace the clanladder but we still worked out the idea for 100% lols... I guess it is time for us to finish it :)

I don't think to start up a wc/gc but then with only dm maps is a good idea... The 2 leagues will be too simular. You got now the WC with only ctf maps and the GC with 50% ctf and 50% dm . CTF is a more populair gameplay so that looks fair to me...

When any1 got ideas for new leagues just let us know and we watch to it :)
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