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Postby Josti on Wed Oct 03, 2007 7:45 am

To decide on maps its pretty simple. 1st Week dm_casino, 2nd Week Dm_caviar, 3rd Week Dm_maint.

This kind of setup would be best i think. Cuz it makes sure clans play all maps, and not only theyre favorites. This should eliminate complaints in gsa like: (blabla)clan is only good in that map but we would own them in other maps.

Maybe then clans will see how good some maps in nightfire are. Compared to silly maps like dm Tokyo.
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Postby |-CSS-|~*$upp@kill@* on Wed Oct 03, 2007 1:38 pm

Josti wrote:To decide on maps its pretty simple. 1st Week dm_casino, 2nd Week Dm_caviar, 3rd Week Dm_maint.

This kind of setup would be best i think. Cuz it makes sure clans play all maps, and not only theyre favorites. This should eliminate complaints in gsa like: (blabla)clan is only good in that map but we would own them in other maps.

Maybe then clans will see how good some maps in nightfire are. Compared to silly maps like dm Tokyo.


You did as example a football leauge, then all matches are allready sheduled and clans face eachother 2 times..
Then it can happen like in CSS vs FUR.. CSS hates dm_caviar and dm_japan but likes dm_plant and dm_knox (for example lol)
When we got to play dm-caviar and dm_japan vs FUR (strong clan) and we gotta play dm_plant and dm_knox So (a clan we beat in eu server). Then we got a lil chance of winning this league just cuz the maps are sheduled like that...
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Postby Josti on Wed Oct 03, 2007 5:55 pm

So they should train the maps. Or scrim in them or just play them more.
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Postby Spida on Wed Oct 03, 2007 9:24 pm

I have also thought about the problem about choosing the maps. But as we talked about a "football league" the home clan should have an advantage ( his map ) to the foreign clan. It will be even again because there are 2 matches between those clans in one season. So they will play Clan A's and Clan B's best map. :wink:

Many football teams play better in their own stadion ( own map ) than in other ones. So that would just be realistic.

And if we do the same maps for week 1, 2, 3 as you said - it would be quite unfair because in favorite maps you meet "weaker" enemies and in harder ones your enemies where they are better in.. People would complain about the map thing even more then i think. "Why didnt we get any good map when we played vs Clan X" and so on.
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Postby fat.Marmot on Wed Oct 17, 2007 4:00 pm

maybe....
every clan has his own "main country"...
the clan can choose the map of the country
and when they havent got any other country left
you can attack this one
:D
and when the clan,who has to defend,lose that match
they get knocked out in WC
and the clan,who owns that country now,gets 10
:p

but if the defenders win,they can choose a country from the attacker clan
:D
but not the "main country" ofc :P
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Postby |-CSS-|~*$upp@kill@* on Thu Oct 18, 2007 9:05 am

When the homeclan can pick the map then you get the same issue as now in clanladder, most clans will only pick maps like dm_island, dm_japan, dm_caviar...
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Postby CV-FreaX on Thu Oct 18, 2007 12:55 pm

dont you think the strong clans will go pwn the smaller clans to get points immediately then? we should better make something to defend the small clans... something like "attacking the last country of a clan costs 2 attacks"
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Postby Smith on Fri Oct 19, 2007 6:46 am

that will only save their home country.. maybe we should make some sort of rule like.. When you got more then 3 countries you cant attack people with less then 2 countries ? something like that..
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Postby fat.Marmot on Fri Oct 19, 2007 7:00 pm

ahm...ye,strong clans will try to knock out the weak ones...
hmm..
so we need a rule idd
what about...
main country defend Neutrals
:D?
and Neutrals can choose the map

and for pretending the weak clans...
maybe they play 4vs3 or something?
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in clanladder...
when clan 1 until 5 plays... it's 4vs4
and 5 till down.... 4vs3
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Postby [George] on Fri Oct 19, 2007 9:10 pm

if ntrls choose the map, then it would have to be at the time of the match, and would lead to arguing/disagreements as well as confusion..?
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Postby Smith on Sat Oct 20, 2007 6:49 am

ye that would be a mess.. we could fix that by sending in a NFBL staff member ( hmm.. ;p ) to control it and count the votes, and then he leaves again after they chose a map?
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Postby [George] on Sat Oct 20, 2007 12:09 pm

well then you would probably have to set maxplayer to 9 unless you do it in gsa or have people leave for the other ntrl to come in and choose.. and you would need nfbl staff ready.. specially if theres more then 1 match going on at the same time.

i think this is way to chaotic to consider lol..

it also doesnt give clans a chance to train for a map, and they might want to change players for different maps, and matches could take forever to organize..
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Postby fat.Marmot on Sat Oct 20, 2007 6:15 pm

but the host can see,who votes for the map
then he can change lt?
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Postby [George] on Sat Oct 20, 2007 9:26 pm

[George] wrote:it also doesnt give clans a chance to train for a map, and they might want to change players for different maps, and matches could take forever to organize..


plus it means the host always has to be there... which they arnt always.
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Postby Mackan on Thu Nov 01, 2007 6:36 pm

Almost all of the last suggestions would be almost impossible to implement in NFBL. Having a football-type of league would be far to risky because clans, as diffrence to football-teams, can die. That would create havoc in any standings. Adding new clans would be almost impossible as well. At least if it's supposed to be made in a "fair" way.

Having a vote of map inside the server would not be worth all the complications. Any vote would have to take place many days in advance, to give the attacking clans a chance to get organized. It is possible to create a vote for each neutral match, but it's a lot of work to administrate and I doubt anyone would be prepared to take that work for EACH match, EACH weekend for the coming 4-5 months. Possible: yes. Something that could be done atm: No.

Having NFBL representatives inside each server for each match to organize a vote would also be complicated. Getting matches started is a problem and has been ever since NFBL started. Adding more events to the start-up would make it even more time-consuming.

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