Anticheat Features for NFBL - DSS2 & NFBSP Client

[[George]]

yes, i think p jump forces tactics to become better, as the game is more fast paced, causing you to think faster, and act faster.

[Tras]

There's already one thread open for discussing PJump issues. This topic is related about the commands that could be considered cheat or not and other anticheat questions about the program.

[[George]]

i think we are discussing about whether p jump should be defined as cheating or not..?

and will it block zoom hack? ive seen nightfire sites that actually have it on as a downloadable programme.

[OldJosti]

Well i would like to see a set sv_minrate number. Because i noticed that there are certain people playing with the rate beeing 2500 those are certainly harder to hit then people with normall 10k dsl/cable rates.

The ex interp command is client side and only affects youre own screen. I feel people should be able to still change certain rates and interp numbers to reduce lag. Also to the fact that this could make eu against usa battles more fair.

Rather funny i read this now and made a comment about this stuff 10 minutes before to suppa about this same subject.

I noticed that changing certain lag related commands could realy improve server stability and lag issues for people. So my question why not make a server.cfg atm for upcoming nfbl matches without the new DSS. Just send it to the hosts with the nfbl mail.

[Tras]

Because DSS's aim in NFBL is just removing cheats from the game, but it seems that you forgot that point.
Anyway, when someone is going to host a DSS server, the server loads the latest cfgs from NFBL, updating them everytime they decide to host.

EDIT: DSS2's and client's release are not very far, so I think there's no hurry for those commands.

[OldJosti]

Well using low rates is a cheat in source. And players with low rates are harder to hit in nightfire as well. Thats why i started about it. Aiming normal but harder to hit. Thats a cheat in my eyes.

[[George]]

are there any players that actually use these codes? ive never heard of it before..

[Smith]

same here.. and how can some1 not be hit easy? its not like he got more health or something..

[[George]]

i think i get the not hit thing.. where people lag lots, they sort of teleport around, rather then move.. and then theyre kinda harder to hit?

[OldJosti]

yep george thats the idea behind it. See how a player like tigerson lags in a game. He blames it on his crappy pc. But that should only affect his own screen, not the way we see him

[[George]]

wouldnt it affect how we see him if he has a bad connection, therefore his pc takes longer to send the message to the server that hes moved, so it takes longer to get to us that hes moved, therefore it appears he teleports, as server trys to make up for lag time? (longest sentence in history of man... ;o)

[OldJosti]

That wouldnt explain his normal ping. Its pretty low. Just like when u use low rates. I used to run this game (and it shouldnt be even possible) on a p2 300mhz with a voodoo2 card (that was the bomb in those days) and nobody saw me lagging. Cuz everyone used the same rates for dial-up connection. And i'm sure he has a better rig then a p2.

It might not affect the game alot. But still it can give u a small advantage and since Tres used the game cs source as a comparemend for cheating with mods. I'm using the same thing now with rates. In source, low rates are considerd as cheats. So why not in NF.

[[George]]

well is it actually a problem that deserves attention? you suspect one person does it, but is that it?

[OldJosti]

No he was just an example. And i thought he was the brother of fur spida, so we cant blame his connection cuz spida moves perfectly fine.

There are more people lagging like hell. If you want a clean match that can only be won on skills and not mods, then you should take a look at this problem aswell.

[[George]]

yes but if spida was his brother, and he moves fine, then he obviously doesnt use the codes, and would probably know that his brother does.. so why wouldnt he say something?

i have never even seen tigerson lag like you describe, are you sure its not just your computer, or the server you were in at the time? and you must be the only person to complain about this lol, so it cant be that big a deal.