Anticheat Features for NFBL - DSS2 & NFBSP Client

[Tras]

I am starting to write the anticheat measures of DSS2 and the client and I'm starting to have doubts of what can be considered "cheating" or not.
I have already read http://009.web-fun.net/league/index.php?page=game_rules#serdet01 , but this commands do not appear there:

ex_interp - Playing with that value, it can increase\decrease lag
cl_rate\rate - Network speed values
cl_resend - Resend packets to server
cl_cmdrate and cl_updaterate
modifying sk_ values
sv_unlag, unlagpush, unlagsamples...
cl_lc and cl_lw (related to unlag, for clients)

Oh and I've already blocked the command r_zmin (nf's internal wallhack) and r_flushtextures (prevent refreshing nightfire's textures inside the game). Is it necessary to block other client values?

Other information about cheating commands is welcome here (not give and goto :P).

[CBCOOLEST]

Hmmm this should be discussed with NFBL repsresentatives and with whole NF or most of them.I weould be glad if:wallhack+aimbot+pjump would get out.Those would be my wishes

[[George]]

great to hear you got rid of rzmin.

but get rid of p jump and i think most people would quit nfbl/nightfire :s

[CBCOOLEST]

but get rid of p jump and i think most people would quit nfbl/nightfire :s

And your point is...?!haha
PJUMP is a big bug and th problem is this game isnt made for that it's called FPS AKA First Person SHOOTER and not Bunny Hopping contest.
Those who want Bunny Hopping contest should go in another game but this game is made for killing your enemy with tactics,strength and weapons+killing tstrategies not by jumping ->taking flag and jumping back in less then 10 seconds and thats it.
I know many that will also come back once pjump doesnt exist ...not a few but many so many will go many will come back...That's how life is:Some come some go some stay and watch.
Good luck Tres and lets hoep you can get:pjump,aimbot out of the game.Good luck you will need it!

[Pencat]

I don't think there is much the program could do to stop pjumping other than making sure people use NFBL server/client settings. Tres also said the time it takes to capture a flag could be watched. If it's too slow it was probably pjumping. However, unless we didn't find handy game settings that hinder pjumping and the NFBL officialy forbides pjumping there is not much the program could do.

To discuss pjumping in the NFBL:
http://009.web-fun.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=599

[Tras]

I already got rid of the other cheats such as aimbots, speedhacks, wallhacks, direct x hacks, etc... but I still have doubts about which console commands can be considered cheating, and which ones shall not be allowed to set\change, so let's talk about that please.
About PJump, yes, there's several ways to remove it from the game with the NFBSP Client, but I don't think that NFBL players would approve it, it's like a new feature which makes the game more interesting. Reducing its effectivity is already enough.

[ZERO]

I don't know all these codes and it's effects on the game or a player very well. I recognise some because people told me to try things out to reduce my lag. Also I know some of these codes are in NUS4.0 (never released) so at that point 009 didn't consider them as cheats but people have become smarter and maybe use them now as tricks/cheats. I really have no idea so leave the discussion open to the more experienced users of these codes.

[[DS]CROSSI]

Just dont remove r_overbright cos without that I see almost nothing now in many maps :). Eight year old monitor was much better than new LCD.

Removing all other commands is no problem for me, but like this program mainly because of blocking mods and also binds in console, the rest is not so important :) A btw it will remove speedhack too or not?

[|-CSS-|~*$upp@kill@*]

Removing all other commands is no problem for me, but like this program mainly because of blocking mods and also binds in console

Means our famous ' thank you ' bind will be removed also :( ?

[Tras]

Don't be scared, it is not as strict as you think, text binds will still work, but not scripting movements.
Commands that allow screen adjustment are allowed (except those that you can see what other players not ;D)

[[George]]

wait - mods ARE being removed from nfbl :( ?

[Tras]

I already posted about it, but well, let's tell again:
- Parts of the mod that will be changed to nightfire's default:
Players skins, grapple target, map textures

- Parts of the mod that will stay as they are:
GUI, Weapons, crosshair, menus, etc..

[CBCOOLEST]

Means our famous ' thank you ' bind will be removed also :( ?

hehehe I dont think you will have to worry about htat oen for a while...Binds arent considered cheats...yet.Maybe pshycological ones in scrims or NFBL but for now binds are safe

[spxter]

Just dont remove r_overbright cos without that I see almost nothing now in many maps :). Eight year old monitor was much better than new LCD.

There is no need to use r_overbright at all, adjust your gamma on your graphics card driver, and u can see every dark spot. It's not cheating, it's even allowed in the worlds biggest e-sports tournament series: theCPL.

Anyway, blocking rates; nonsense... it may increase/decrease client speed to server speed, nothing wrong with that. Everyone can play the same with different rates, 25k, 30k or even 10k it doesn't matter. The client's connection speed matters.

[[George]]

what about sounds?