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Postby guest on Fri Aug 31, 2007 10:40 am

a crosshair can b a difference.. some corsshairs are made to make grapplling easier some crosshair are made to make hs easier from far distance or get better aim at enemies w.e so if you people really want no disadvantages and no advantages in the game i'd suggest u should do it good and so it means we all have to use the standard nf crosshair..
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Postby OldJosti on Fri Aug 31, 2007 11:36 am

jst call me guest wrote:and besides i still didnt see any1 complaining about it?

I have started this thread as a complaint and, in order to find out how people think about this.
Read through the posts in this thread. Most people have a different opinion of how strict the modification rules should be but generally it's favored, especially by the NFBL.




Well if you read more carefull, then you would notice that its non nfbl players that agree with you. The nfbl players just want the wallhack to be blocked
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Postby Blackdragon on Mon Sep 03, 2007 4:43 pm

I think all nfbl players who use mods/ huds etc are making it 2 give them advantage.
It is unfare when i can't see my enemy in the dark as good as they do.
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So i strongly recomand 2 take all mods out from nfbl. If people like HF2 mod let them play Hf2 not nightfire. :grin:
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Postby Guest on Fri Sep 07, 2007 1:00 am

[quote] Thank you for your suggestions, but I think we have discussed those before:

Sorry, NFBL has no ability to control over 100 screenshots every weekend just to see if players are playing fair. It's not possible, takes too much time.

The only option to check for cheats (due to workload and time) would be via a program or script. Either something that blocks the cheats, or something that detects and reports the cheats. Probably that's the only way we can be sure to have a fair and controled game.

I'm sceptical if it's possible to have a "NFBL-mod" containing various mods of crosshairs etc. Some players would like it, because their favourite crosshair is there, but other players will still be just as unhappy, because their crosshair isn't allowed (even if it's equal to the allowed). Maybe something for the future, but not in the first stage.

As far as I know (which isn't much) does the HUD not affect your ability to play on equal terms as everyone else, so I wouldn't see a reason to disallow modified HUDS (unless that's the limit of DSS or other programs). [quote]

well if everyone is on the same level, it makes things easier. the more things you similarize the better. For crosshairs you can allow like up to 4-5 models. Make player models blue for mi6 and red for pheonix but make the red and blue darker so that illumination stops. screenshot round should be sent to the nfbl admin in gsa pm,. usually on nfbl days admins are on, + i dont think 2 mins of your life to check 10 ss's would hurt that bad for fair play. dont remove pjump but remove powerups. make the game similar to quake 4 q4max or q3 cpma. i dont think xhairs will matter cuz you can make 5 totally diff ones (circle with dot, cross with dot, normal, dot, etc.)
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Postby Tras on Fri Sep 07, 2007 1:28 am

I really do not understand your point about blocking crosshairs or restricting them, you are the only one who defenses it... but well, controlling crosshairs is more like a waste of time and I prefer them to be changed freely.

Even if player skins are darker, what's the difference...?, they still have solid coloured textures, why not using original skins?

Oh and what's the point of doing a screenshot?, people may have the coloured models darker, lighter, but they all give advantage. Shall we difference cheating models depending the brightness they have?. This would be annoying for anyone.

Other games like CS do not allow this kind of modding in VAC (Secure) servers, better yet, CS does not allow even to change the crosshair, so editing NF original characters is enough for me to be considered "advantage".

Mhh... removing... powerups? :P. Yes, right, I agree that I don't play NF very often, but this is the first time I have heard someone complaining about powerups.

Guest, it seems that you don't care about what other people think about it, and you just want to convert NFBL to "your own NFBL", and I have not seen much posts here that agree with you.
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Postby [George] on Fri Sep 07, 2007 3:34 pm

yeah, and while we remove power ups, lets remove all guns so that we can only fist, just so no one has a weapon advantage on someone..

removing power ups is stupid lol, they make the game more varied and interesting.

and i think players should use their own crosshair if they want to, as crosshair doesnt actually help much with aiming (try togglehud in console then carry on playing..) it only helps with grappling and shooting things that are standing still from a long distance..
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Postby Josti on Fri Sep 07, 2007 6:16 pm

Colouring models txtrs isnt allowed in source, but why do it there? They already made a huge difference between the terrorist and the counter strike teams. Theres even a freaking radar in that game to help you out.

The new halo game has red and blue textures already implanted. Apart from crossi, i dont hear any of the nfbl players complain about brighter textures. The only thing this community wants atm is something that removes or blocks the wallhack.

Crosshairs, complete huds, textures whatever nobody complains about it.
I heard you say in here once that adjusting brightness messes up youre game and people had theyre own choice in doing that. But it gives you the same advantage as white walls with dark models. And that messes up youre game 2, so theres just no chance in blocking that advantage.
If someone chooses to mess up his game with these retarded things then let them do it. Its still the same advantage in the end.

As you said blocking certain crosshairs is wasting time, well for me blocking certain textures is the same waste of time. All this community is waiting for atm is a block on wallhack, and with community i mean people that actualy play the game and play nfbl.
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Postby UltimateSniper on Fri Sep 07, 2007 7:59 pm

[quote="[George]":P]yeah, and while we remove power ups, lets remove all guns so that we can only fist, just so no one has a weapon advantage on someone..

removing power ups is stupid lol, they make the game more varied and interesting.

and i think players should use their own crosshair if they want to, as crosshair doesnt actually help much with aiming (try togglehud in console then carry on playing..) it only helps with grappling and shooting things that are standing still from a long distance..


I have to agree :grin:

the PUs are the special element in the game which makes worthwhile searching after... Someone with a PU must be ganged up on and killed so that the other team can have the PU. It's more of tact required than skilled playing :wink:

Crosshairs are awesome... they don't take up more than the given space and there's no point in replacing them with the normal. Anyone can replace their crosshair with a red dot :wink:
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Postby [George] on Fri Sep 07, 2007 9:04 pm

i agree with josti and ulti :))

the day i hear someone in an nfbl match say "omg edited wall textures to a brighter colour noob" is the day we know tres has joined an nfbl clan. :D
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Postby UltimateSniper on Sat Sep 08, 2007 7:45 pm

i agree with blocking world textures mods, i dont mind about the hud mods but everything apart from the hud mods i think should be looked at :wink:
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Postby Guest on Sun Sep 09, 2007 9:10 pm

SCRIM RULES:
NO PU's ALLOWED
NO CHATKILLING
NO SPAWNHIDING/KILLING
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Postby [George] on Mon Sep 10, 2007 12:10 am

sure, no chatkilling. ill just face the wall everytime i see an enemy.
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Postby UltimateSniper on Mon Sep 10, 2007 9:25 am

then what'll u do?... use ur h@x0red sh03s+p-ju/\/\p 2 5p33d @w@y? :grin:

If only people couldnt kill you when you chat... :grin:

PUs should be allowed... (shoes usually take p-jumping in to large effect :sad: )

and if ur too scared to let us know who you are then why should we listen to you? :grin:
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Postby Tras on Mon Sep 10, 2007 12:09 pm

the day i hear someone in an nfbl match say "omg edited wall textures to a brighter colour noob" is the day we know tres has joined an nfbl clan. :D


I've been already in a NFBL clan, so what?

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Postby Mackan on Mon Sep 10, 2007 6:54 pm

Please stay on topic, this is for discussing mods, not personal matters.
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