No "Mods" in NFBL matches for equal opportunity

[Tras]

First of all, you shall follow some of the forum rules about your mispelling or whatever you would call it.

white walls and colouring models aint a cheat? it just makes a player see enemy faster.

If you have advantage, you are obviously cheating, such as having some transparent walls (wallhack), you can see much better the players.

no need for dss making the server laggy with those scripts.. and those commands lyk "!time".

Actually DSS2 receives the information about who is cheating and who isn't, commands like !time and other commands can be disabled in NFBL matches, and they can use the NFBSP client menu for other purposes.

i wonder how many people are going to like this no mods in nfbl :) made by ppl who dont even play nfbl lmfaofaofalfo

Pencat already replied this lololol.

then y cant we make another stupid map lyk tokyo?:) totally dark with not enough spawnplaces.. ?

The spawnplaces of tokyo are the same allowed in NFBL, at least 8 spawnplaces. And if it is dark, use v_gamma.

lets have some fun!

Why not?, Sure we will. But I hope you won't repeat again your sentences.

[guest]

hmhm nvr heard of being sarcastic i guess ah well.. if u have an advantage u rnt cheating.. and wallhack is a different story didnt i jst type that or am i mistaken? because if u play ctf_carpark ur cheating... if the team choses blue side they r cheating also cuz they have speed at beginning so u have an advantage so ur cheating.. since ur sayin wallhack isnt a different story for u then this wont b a diff story either:) y bother making those stupid comands like !time? people cant afford to buy a watch or a clock? no i wont use v_gamma because then im cheating am i not?:) making the map brighter:) so i wont:) because that wud considered cheating:) or not? so plz. and again lets have some fun was sarcastic but i guess u didnt know that .. because having fun under these stupid conditions of having no mods at nfbl is really not having fun..

[UltimateSniper]

For me, one of the reasons I have stopped playing NF actively is because what the NFBL is about has changed very much. You can never tell how much of a player's score is due to his skill or his mods.

Or his p-jumping scripts

The point is, players show up almost unmissibly with white walls, without this mod, it would be a lot more challenging...

[Tras]

All I got to say is that guest must read this thread again because all what he is asking\saying is already sorted here, and the rest is off-topic. There's nothing new to add and I hope he won't continue repeating the same story, already annoying. Aleikum as salaam.

[guest]

if u want it to make it more challenging make amap all black walls have fun there ;) well? and about pjumping wouldnt it a bit more challenging if u defend against that person?:) or is that too much ?:)

[[DS]CROSSI]

I know he is a FuR because I saw his IP in this forum, that's enough. And I don't care if you like white walls, if YOU don't want to play without white walls, don't play NFBL.

wow im in fur? cool never knew that.. omfg -,-

Well he is SF xQz.Me aka whitewaller... in fur used to be before

[Pencat]

@ "guest":

Posts that are off-topic and especially offending will always be removed. If you don't stop making such posts you will be banned from this forum.

[[OO9]]

@Guest reason your posts are being removed is because they where going more and more off topic and you seem more interested in being belligerent and disruptive than writing constructive arguments to back up your opinion about why you think mods should be allowed in NFBL matches and which ones.

The Topic is about the question of removing Mods from NFBL games, either in part or full, to give all the players a fair level playing ground which is in the sprit of NFBL. The purpose of the topic is to discuss this and while all opinions are welcome it is difficult for anybody to take your opinions seriously when you chose a stand point of one players rights in a team game played by many teams and players.

For textures, either player or walls/surfaces it's great that NF can be modded, but unfortunately some players do use mods to make an unfair advantage while playing. We could continue to allow all mods in NFBL, but too also keep fair play we would have to tell all players which ones are best for an advantage, which could result with all players playing with something like all white wall maps and yellow skin players for the enemy.

Your opinions are still welcome here, but if you continue to go off topic and be disruptive your posts will simply be removed.

[guest]

sry my bad.. the main point is that u want people to have no advantages or no disadvantages right?

[Pencat]

In my opinion, the league rules are supposed to make sure that apart from skill (aiming, movement, team work etc. - everything gained from training) and remote factors (e.g. one's PC performance, internet connection) everybody is supposed to have the same basic chances. If technical advantages are reduced the actual skills become a lot more important. The game is considered more fair and people have got less reason to complain about unfair circumstances - allthough complaining will probably always be somewhat popular.

By the way, if you want to complain about unfair maps, this is not the right topic.

[CBCOOLEST]

In my opinion, the league rules are supposed to make sure that apart from skill (aiming, movement, team work etc. - everything gained from training) and remote factors (e.g. one's PC performance, internet connection) everybody is supposed to have the same basic chances. If technical advantages are reduced the actual skills become a lot more important. The game is considered more fair and people have got less reason to complain about unfair circumstances - allthough complaining will probably always be somewhat popular.
By the way, if you want to complain about unfair maps, this is not the right topic.

So the aiming and training and so on is up to the person and his computer is his problem if its like theothers or if not...Those things cant be the same at all persons (trainming and technical things like computer) so its already an advantage or disatvantage for some...The main poit is to make it as little as possible so that all start with the same "configurataion" and from there its all up to training and skill.Mods are useful for many but as stated above they arent used just for eyecandy they are also used to create a big advantage towards the others by many.I think there shouldn't be any mods allowed in NF ,not only NFBL.

[guest]

eagle did u say something about removing the mods but u can keep ur own crosshair?:) jst a yes or no will do..

[CBCOOLEST]

nOpe I didnt ..I said the thing I woudl agree with is a different crosshair but I aint so sure that is also good so I suggest they room custom crosshairs 2.NORMAL NF thats all!
I used 1 different crosshair for 2 days and thats it.No other mods and so on..And I can still shoot..I aint not so good as others cause of my training but not cause I dont have crosshairs.That crosshair was even worse tehn the normal one...You dont need mods to win you need training and skill thats it.

[guest]

well if u said that ppl can have a diff crosshair then the standard 1 i would disagree bcuz some crosshair give a advantage which u guys dont like :) another thing.. dis is all about trying to make it fair and have no advantages at all or no disadvantages.. does this mean we have to get same character?:) bcuz u can hit rook better then xenia... cuz hes bigger.. of course dis is an advantage for u if u have wai lin:) this mite b off topic but i jst want to help u guys make the advantages as small as possible and then i want to watch how many people are going to complain about all the ides of removing mods etc :) plz dont remove this post i want a reaction on it..

[Tras]

There's a line between what can be associated to advantages or no advantages depending their measures, for instance, if you get another crosshair I doubt that you will have much advantage, even if you put a big or no crosshair you won't be much better, but having white walls is really another thing.

The ingame character is selected by the player, who decides which he likes and if he is strong and big like Rook, the player knows that he is big and he can be viewed easier, and he approves that. But if you make player models white and walls black, I don't think that they would like the idea, as they can be seen much better than they can see you. They have no chance of knowing that you have advantage from them, and you would have much more

This is such an obvious point that shall not be discussed really, it's simple, the problem is if you don't want to understand it or just wanting some hot ambience.

And we removed your previous posts because ithey included insults, some of them were a bit off-topic and most of them were unuseful for this thread.