2L2D - New Clan Compared to Established Clan: A Discussion

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Should 2L2D join the NFBL?

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Postby CBCOOLEST on Sat May 12, 2007 11:29 am

What I ment is why ppl make everyday new clans:Cause they want to be the best in the game so they make a clan where they are leader so that they train and so on..And because they get into NFBL they die and make another clan with same members....next day.And voila new clan....Everyday we assist at this and to respond to the other question:"so ur saying, dont make new clans?" I would say:Make new clans only if you can keep them up l,ong enough like 1-2-3 years not like 1-2 weeks
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Postby |-CSS-|~*$upp@kill@* on Sat May 12, 2007 11:46 am

Eagle ur right about that sum NFBL clans do it.
I only recruited such ppl for CSS when we were in a hard time... but like now it is useless to recruit ppl from AF or any clan like that cuz they don't make CSS better...

Anyways I agree with u NFBL clans shud recruit more of such players, those players will get better so more competition :)
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Postby Mackan on Sat May 12, 2007 12:21 pm

I don't know how it is nowadays, but 2 years ago most clans didn't recuit anyone, unless they were very good players. That ment that players could only jump between the big clans, because those clans didn't recuit anyone they didn't know about. It wasn't a good system. Yes, of course there were exceptions, but only exceptions.

I like how Mercian viewed at it, both have established players, but also recuit unknown players (if they fitted personality requirements) and help them get better. It seems to have worked for quite many players, but maybe they would have done well anyway. Well, I thougth the idea was good as everyone had the chance to join at least.
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Postby [George] on Sat May 12, 2007 12:28 pm

Clans that arnt in the NFBL, like EoN, ADA, $pY, TA, RIO, VAC, SOC will recruit people as long as they show some skill and knowledge as well as having a good attitude. You dont need to be a fantastic player to get in, but once you are in you will generally learn more and get better, at which you can choose to stay in the clan or clans you're in, or move to one of the bigger NFBL clans.

For instance, a lot of people who are in clans like those above, cant p jump, but get tips and info from those who know how to in those clans, a good example would be www.freewebs.com/ada-h (a site made by me for ADA) where players who arnt that experienced or good, can get basic hints and tips on how to improve and get better.

A good example of a player who has done this would be Tin, who started off in $pY, and is now in CSS.
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Postby CBCOOLEST on Sat May 12, 2007 12:35 pm

Mercian was a very good leader.From what I have heard he always had a good and respectful clan with very skilled members...He knew what he was doing and he put all his time in that clan..He made it work and it was the best clan overall (respect,skills,knowledge etc).Here is the link so you might remember it -]UK[- Clan
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Postby |-CSS-|~*$upp@kill@* on Sat May 12, 2007 2:37 pm

George: the difference between such clans and clans like fur/css/s5 is huge...
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Postby da_fleischi on Sat May 12, 2007 4:30 pm

but AF existed 4 or 5 months :shock:
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Postby Denisa on Sat May 12, 2007 4:37 pm

da_fleischi wrote:but AF existed 4 or 5 months :shock:


Wow ;o i thought it was alive 2 max 3 months but seems like i was wrong ...
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Postby da_fleischi on Sat May 12, 2007 5:11 pm

you need 1month to exist to join NFBL ^^
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Postby CBCOOLEST on Sat May 12, 2007 5:30 pm

da_fleischi wrote:but AF existed 4 or 5 months :shock:

That aint enough time for players to get to know each other very very good...Thats why it also died.It takes 1 year for players to know how they think and much more about each other and to see if they are "compatible"...in my opinion
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Postby Tarmac on Sat May 12, 2007 7:28 pm

read first of all the nfbl rules, for what your clan needs 2 have before you can join nfbl, and i must say...
not much new clans "servive" nfbl, most clans die or fall apart
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Postby UltimateSniper on Sat May 12, 2007 7:47 pm

survive*

i can imagine that :wink:

look at CSS... too many members, maybe they shud toughen up and other clans can get some of their players? :shock:
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Postby Bloody on Sat May 12, 2007 8:03 pm

dumb idea :P :roll: :twisted:
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Postby |-CSS-|~*$upp@kill@* on Sat May 12, 2007 9:59 pm

UltimateSniper wrote:survive*

i can imagine that :wink:

look at CSS... too many members, maybe they shud toughen up and other clans can get some of their players? :shock:


We don't have too many members, CSS is now a mix of great skilled players but also players who play for fun or aren't very active.. This is why we stopped recruiting EU players. When a clans get to big, everybody wants to play NFBL and u will get only more fights..

and nah we not giving out members to other clans :P We love all our members :)
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Postby CBCOOLEST on Sun May 13, 2007 5:05 am

How I see it is liek this:They think NFBL is easy ..."No problem we can win it .We are good" and after a few lost scrims the members start to complain and to get angry and to spill the nerves out on each other-->some leave +some others leave--->CLAN DIES .Thats why you need like 1 year or more...To know your members and what they can do and how they react to "stress" and so on.Thats my opinion
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