CSS plant rematch

[Rickmao]

hello.. i wanted som1 from nfbl staff to explain me why css is not getting a rematch in dm_plant..what happen was that..css played that map weeks ago, but 1 of our members(tarmac) played for neutrals undercover..and we didnt knew..and now som1 told me that the game we played this weekend (sunday) was not a rematch so we will get 1 weekend without nfbl bcuz of that..
I just wanted som1 to explain me..why we dont get a rematch for that planet..

[Mackan]

Hi, CSS lost the dm_plant match because of Tarmac and he will be banned from NFBL for some time too. Suppa can explain what matches you played, but this weekend, there was only Clan Ladder matches and matches that had to be moved from last Sunday, (1st of April), because of the GSA crash. CSS played one such match on Friday this weekend I think and for some reason also played another GC match, even though you were not supposed to. So now CSS has played 1 more attack then all other clans in NFBL and will have to wait one week for other clans to catch up. That is why CSS can't attack next week. :)

I hope you understand now

Mackan

[Guest]

I understand that, what i dont understand its why we dont got a re-match on that planet.
Suppa already told me that, nfbl staff said that clans have to be responsablizd for their members and thats why we aint getting a re-match on that planet..well i understand that when we have a member playing undercover on our neutral matches that clan, must be punished but, in my opinion..its very severe when u give us a lose on that match, without chance of re-match.
Like i said, i understand staff view but, we cant control our members and i think we dont have to pay for their stupid acts.

[Rickmao]

That post above is mine, forgot to log in

[Smith]

auto-login :)?

[Mackan]

I understand you are disappointed you loose a match because Tarmac misbehaved and maybe without anyone else knowing it before the match. You think that loosing a match is a hard punishment too. I'm glad you think it was a hard price to pay, because it is very important to respect the rules of not imposting, especially when imposting against one's own clan. What would it look like if all 4 neutrals were imposters not trying to play hard, so the clan could win easily? You would hate them and want them banned forever lol

What Tarmac did was a big break against the rules and as a CSS-member whole CSS clan will have to suffer from it, because it was possible he tried to give CSS favours too. As I said, Tarmac will be banned too. If CSS are very angry at him you can deal with it internally within CSS too, but that is not our buissniess.

Regards

[Guest]

Yes, everyone in css is furious with him, and he is already kicked.

I also understand that, even without we know, he played as a neutral on that match and then of corse that match cant be validated but in my opinion the right price to pay is a rematch and not a match losing.
But well...i dont agree with ur decision but i also understand some points of it and i just would like nfbl staff to reconsider ur decision cuz a match losing is a high price to pay in this case bcuz im sure no1 of us knew that he(tarmac) was doing it.

[Rickmao]

oh, forgot to log in again

[Mackan]

lol as Smith said, auto-loggin is a tip :)

It's ok, you don't have to agree with us, even if we prefer when players have the same opinions that we have. It is good to discuss such events because it helps us when taking decisions and it also forces us to motivate desicions. If we've made a bad desicion without knowing it by mistake, someone else might have seen the wrong in it and it would give us a chance to correct ourselves. We aim for a fair game so it's good you let us know when you feel things weren't fair. I can agree it is not all fair all of CSS has to suffer from this, but Tarmac's breach agains rules was many times more unfair for all players in all other NFBL clans. Not only did he impost, he imposted also against his own clan and he played in the match instead of some other neutral.

I don't think there are any good ways to control all players in NFBL, even if we checked logs against an IP-database for each match (but it's quite much work). In the end it's down to each player and clan to follow the rules and hopefully all "cheaters" are caught. I hope everyone who has tried to break the rules have been caught doing so, but I don't think so as we didn't control all logs.

What clans can do is to increase their requirements when recuiting players. Maybe looking at skills isn't enough. No clan would agree with me now when I say that is the only thing they look at when they recuit. They would also say, attitude, person, friends bla bla bla lol. I don't think that is true because the behaviour of a lot of NF-players from more or less all clans wouldn't be socially accepted anywhere but in this game, so clans can't say they look at behaviour. In the end it seems to be about skills to almost 100% (not only current skills, but also potential skills).

[Smith]

all but 1 mackus...

but i agree with both of you. i wasnt there but for as far as i heard, he left the game cuz some1 said he wasnt the real 1? that would mean that the match wasnt ended, we could get like 15 mins without him? call that a rematch :).

In the case he didnt leave, its impossible to controll EVERY member to check everything they do. tarmac got kicked by css , at least give us a chance to show we didnt know?

and i do understand the admins as well..
if some1 breaks the rules, you should blame the clan who got him into the nfbl.. i think? but if some1 who isnt in the nfbl does this? how you guys prefer to solve this then :s

[|-CSS-|~*$upp@kill@*]

He didn't quit server...

DS-blizzard was saying before match that it was not real 1 but he had not a good reason for it ... So I said to WAR-Xqzah(tarmac undercover) When you are imposting then leave server now or u will get banned for a long time in NFBL.. well he didnt quit and I forgot about it. 2 days later Tarmac joined my pm and said or he wud get banned from NFBL? ( didn't understand it first but then I realised he was that WAR-Xqzah) well I asked nokia for the serverlogs did an ip check and it was him. Told it other NFBL staff cuz I don't want to win matches like this. (also dun want to lose them like this-_- ) So I hoped for rematch but oppinion of macky was different and well I can understand it but can also understand opinion of rick and his arguments.