Ronins for CTF Clan matches

[Mackan]

Ok, to me, this seems to be the part left to really decide about GC.. Does anyone have any further opinions about this? Or should the rules for GC be left as they are atm?

[Style[5]SubZero]

Nooooooo nooooo ronins!!

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LoL Subzero watch to date please ;) Some topics are really old here:)

[{WAR}*K<R>Y*[CD[]

I wonder if Ronins could be reintroduced to NFBL?

I think that though, as stated above, some topics are old it does not mean we can't review them again. Especially since things have changed since 2004.

P-Jump(punkjump), Peter Hop, Speed Jump have come into the game, and though it is fun to do and some people live by it, I think that it has changed the game dramaticly.

Personally I think it ruined the game, but aside from that I think that the Ronin is one possible way to counter-act the pjump , it at least makes it a challange to grapple out with flag as well as lets ppl know that enemy is near even when traveling almost to fast to see.

Just a thought

Best,

{WAR}K<R>Y[CD]
Clan Director
www.warclan.ca

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You are right about that ronins make pjump harder. Played last time in a rome server with ronins and they blocked me sometimes. But about reintroduce ronins in NFBL i vote No.
Defend the flag will be to easy then. Don't forget that not only the attacking skills(pjump) got improved by nf players but also the defending skills(mines,positions).

[ZERO]

I'm curious, are there still none-pjumpers (or very little skilled pjumpers) in the NFBL right now?

I'm probably one of the few little skilled but I also recently played in some ronin maps, it's fun for short but it doesn't make me a lot happier LOL. Also it encourages pjumping to get out as fast as possible

[warsharpshot]

{WAR} was the last clan in NFBL to start pjumping. We only started doing it or else we would have been left behind in the dust. Many of our members still do not such as the old timers-mich, unagi, gracie, kry mopar, etc

NO RONINS IN NFBL!

maybe we try this coming WC with all grapples removed so no pjumping via grapple?

[Mackan]

Removing all grapples is not a solution. P jumping was discussed here a lot not too long ago: http://009.web-fun.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=599

If all grapple points were removed large parts of the maps would be inaccessable, which is not good. Just removing the grapples would not solve the problem completly as the jumping is still possible in maps without grapples (like ctf_casino and ctf_carpark).

There are other arguments too, but please refer to the above topic, instead of having me typing all of them

If someone was able to find a way to remove the jumps from the game, NFBL would be very interested to try it out. Changing various settings was not satisfactory, even if it reduced the jumping a bit. Gotya said in the above topic that it's a hard problem, because it is not something you can look up in the game-code and just delete, it's a built in mechanism in the game.

[warsharpshot]

i mean remove the celphone grapple...taking out ever grappletarget would be a long process

[Smith]

THe graple aint the problem mackan tried to say, paste a mine or nade and you can p-jump. and ronins... if you do it good, they could be the pdw in the back you need to be gone easy.. so ronins would make it even easier !