Info for all map-creators (and everyone else too, of course)

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Senor tresos will get #### on me then:P Same for bratwurst penny. NFBL always ask permission of the mapcreators before we change something in the map or before we use it in NFBL..

[UltimateSniper]

dm_tokyo was modded by tres but made by some guy workin 4 GBX... besides, why should u hav to ask if nobody knows/cares who modded it?

[[OO9]]

What Suppa says is correct, it's called courtesy.

... why should u hav to ask if nobody knows/cares who modded it?

where do you get that from?

[Smith]

imagine you're building a house ulti, then like 1 year later when its done, some stranger comes to your houses changes the place of your toilet, or deleted it to recude lagg..
he did it in YOUR house, its your property
and just ignore the toilet fact ;p

Did you get the message why you need people's permission ;)?

[UltimateSniper]

i didnt mean that... the people who mod the maps the most and give them new names like DM_Tokyo... if someone else modded that map to put snipers in they would still know that tres modded it originally and probably wont care about the person who modded the weps afterwards, i agree its cortious to ask the guy first but it never usually happens

[Mackan]

That makes no diffrences. A creator's work is his and we're not going to use it without permission from the author. It is simple and we will under no circumstances do it diffrently.

Even if the author is indiffrent to how his creation is used, it's better to ask first instead of just stealing and abusing.


Everyone is allowed to have an opinion about NFBL's stance in this matter. However, we will try to do what is normaly socially accepted, i.e. follow the norms of the society. Most of the people in all countries think a creator's work is his and shouldn't be used without permission. That is why all developed countries have created copyright-legalisation.

[[George]]

although i have no problems with asking for permission, i do see why its arguable..

people make maps for others to play on them..

..so why not play them in nfbl?

its like if someone gives you some money for your birthday, you dont then go and ask them if you can spend it lol.

[Mackan]

No George, now you're comparing apples with oranges...


I guess most map-creators have little against their maps being used for NFBL, but I know there are a few who do mind. That is why we ask first (or are contacted by the creator who asks if we'd like to use the map...) instead of adding the map without asking.

However, this discussion is quite theoretical, because we haven't had many maps to consider the past year. I remember we've refused one or two and apart from them we didn't hear about a map that a lot of players would like to ask. The topic about ctf_dust has just a handful of players supporting the map, so it's hardly representative for the NF community.

[UltimateSniper]

well i do agree on asking the map creator first but i prefer to try and see things from other people's points of view... I wouldnt mind any of my maps being used on the NFBL; if anything, i'd think it a privalige.

I can understand that some map creators don't like p-jump being used in the NFBL and only put grappletargets in maps when they need to or the map is simply such a design that p-jumping is very easy and very effective, thus they would really not want some of their maps in the NFBL.

that's probably the only reason i can think of


dm_highway_NFBL is almost completed (ty for feedback macky ) so far people find it a very interesting map but also like p-jumping in it... About half the map is good for p-jumping, the rest is buildings and hills for close quarters i'll post a new thread on it when i release it and i hope that the NFBL accept it!

[Smith]

I tried to finish my map this week, probably a bit 2 short to be tested anyway.. but ill postpone it till the next WC then, keep your eyes open for ctf_brickcity ;)

[UltimateSniper]

make it so when u shoot each brick it explodes

trouble with func_tank is when 2 ppl try to use 1 gun at once the server crashes -.- i wish we could fix that